MAX:  Max, interviewed by Lisa or talking with other family members My father and my mother took me over to the railroad station, Wysokie Litewskie.

And I went up on the train, was in the twilight, in the evening. And I went up on the train and I looked out from the window and I saw a man standing on the platform and the train started moving, and the man became further and further and further and further till I didn't see him any more.

LISA:  Lisa, interviewing her grandfather, Max Who was he?

MAX: My father! This incident I'll never forget until I die. First, nobody knew what's gonna be. He didn't know that in a few years I'll send a ticket so he should come also there. And he came to the United States, where after a few months he sent for his love, my mother. They came to New York, they lived in New York, my father and my mother.